RaverJilly

Thanks for the tip! I was more thinking along the lines of regulating my sleeping and eating patterns! I have major issues sleeping!

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brooklynhype

Aaaah 5-htp is goddddly.

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RaverJilly

bad??^

Wuff

Do not under-estimate tylenol, anything that metabolizes in the liver can and will fuck you up. Advil is love, children, advil is love.

Personally I take too many prescription drugs to dabble in illegal ones, given the fact there's no regulation on their creation I can't know when the drug is completely out of my system and I can start taking my prescriptions again. Only alcohol loves me ;_;.

E is fine as long as you can find any pure source, the problems arise when it gets mixed with cat tranquilizers and anything else the dealer scrapes from his garage floor.

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4real

If the government ever controlled the use of Mdma we all know it would be for all the wrong reasons and to their benifet. Its just a scary thought, has anybody read the book 1984? I know its a lil extreme to say but still id rather have the use of MDMA illegal.

4real

And im not saying i approve of the propaghanda! Even though i use mdma, im sorry but it is an unnatural substance. It really does make you feel good and empathetic but it doesnt last forever, thus making it unatural. Its like a placebo for happiness. It doesnt solve anxiety and depression it just prolongs it. Well you tell me, do u get the same feeling of excstacy 24 seven? Cause if you did then i'd be wrong. Ive stopped using drug excessively, and only use them to heighten experiences, to my advantage. I control the drug and not let it control me.

4real

Wow im such an idiot! Its so early. Im reading 84 now its Huxleys "A Brave New World" i was talking about

peachfuzz

actually, i believe that mdma could have great social and medicinal benifits if it were controlled by the government. but, because of the rampant misuse and abuse of the drug, it will remain schedule I, right along with heroin, cocaine and crack.. which in my opinion, is absolutely absurd..

4real

Now thats just absurd..id like to know why?

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RaverJilly

I was going to say... i read both those books and i didn't think 1984 had much to do with drugs?? heehee

Busta

14 is over kill but I don't think that it was the cause of your state. You will not easily notice the effects of 5-HTP just as you don't really notice the effect of taking a multivitamin. Your brain uses 5-HTP to make serotonin. Your brain will only make as much serotonin as it needs. Many people take it before going to a party, but I think its best use is right after the party and then for the next few days. It helps you regain your serotonin when you need it the most. This lowers the incidence of brain damage too. Once your brain is depleted of serotonin other chemicals, attach to serotonin receptors causing them to be damaged.

Some other tips: Take some B6 with your 5-HTP. Most 5-HTP will actually come with a little B6 mixed in, but not usually enough. B6 will help the 5-HTP to move for your bloodstream into your brain. If you ever want to have some really cool dreams take some 5-HTP before bed. There are a lot of other vitamins that are handy too. http://thedea.org/preloading.html does a pretty good job hitting the main ones.

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liquidgecko

What I enjoy out of the article is the whole listening to an hour of beats and then from that decided there not missing much and that being at a rave is a waste of money and time and makes you do stupid things!
and alcohol is not a waste of money, and doesn't make you do stupid things?
and waste of time that makes no sence! if your with friends there is no way your wasting your time!

Saffron

You know that thousands of people use cocaine as recreationally as people use ecstacy right? I think E is just as bad as any chemical drug and the fact that all of you are so pro-mdma is scary. You may not feel the effects now, but we'll talk in 5 years when you have no memory and you have severe depression which was non existant before.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4315305.stm

I wish I had your phone numbers so I could call your parents.

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peachfuzz

<-- 22 years old
<-- makes his own decisions and mistakes.

i've done a lot of research on the drug, and most testing for it is inconclusive. there is only a small link to memory loss and severe depression, and even then that only comes with heavy usage over a long period of time.

this isn't to say that there probably aren't side effects from just one use, but the evidence just isn't there to support that there is any long term damage due to recreational use in moderation.

pauiel

(thanks for starting the post anabolic frolic!)
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Why risk it at all?
Why not just enjoy life for what it is?

liquid_nrg

(thanks for starting the post pauiel!)
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I think the correct question is......
why bump a 3 year old thread?

pauiel

i didn't realize it was 3 years old

Umm...Happy Birthday...again and again...

If anyone still wants to talk about the topic I'm here!

Glyce

lol. I'll talk with you about it.

I would argue that X is a part of life if you make it that. And natural, well, it came from nature just like everything else. EVERYTHING comes from nature, so it's a little hard to argue about a substance being natural.

I won't argue, X probably isn't good for your body, and it's not good for you at all if you take two (or even one) every weekend, but what's to say that it's necessarily bad for you? In this day and age, even the air we breath is bad for us. And for some people, it's the feeling of release when you take it. You feel the body high, and then start dancing, and by the end of the night all your cares and worries are gone, and the dancing and the friends and the fun are all that remain. In a world of high stress is that not healthy? Of course, there is the comedown, but the only time I experienced a comedown was when I didn't drink enough water. Even when I didn't take 5 HTP I was fine. People need to choose their own ways of relieving stress. Most people smoke pot, some people don't need help from another substance and can do it themselves.

On memory: Has anyone ever read Tim O Brien's book The Things They Carried (other than Waffle)? It talks about the telling of stories, and how there isn't a true war story, but he means any story in general. Everything is warped a little bit by one's self, or others around them. A person's memories are basically stories of their life. So maybe if our memory does vary in the future, it probably isn't that much different. I dunno. This isn't quite a complete thought, but there ya go.

I don't know, my thoughts aren't totally complete here. But if anyone wants to talk, here ya go. lol.

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