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Old August 3rd, 2000, 12:50 PM   #26
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uhm

doing e is a crime

if they test you and you are high, or contain it in your blood, you can be charged

charged with what, you ask?

public intoxication!!

bet ya didnt know that one

so it aint only posession that kin get ya nailed.....if the cop wants to he can drag ya down for PUBLIC INTOXICATION!!

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Old August 3rd, 2000, 01:12 PM   #27
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yeah i'm sure cops carry the equipment and possess the know-how to do on-the-spot blood tests.
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Old August 3rd, 2000, 01:31 PM   #28
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Old August 3rd, 2000, 01:38 PM   #29
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I totally agree that it was stupid for people to do drugs at the rally and to carry around signs about legalizing drugs. That totally goes against exactly what we were there to protest. But I guess I just find it funny that everyone is so hypocritical. Everyone is saying how we should go sober to this rally and prove we can party without drugs when like 85% of people you see at parties are high. WHy don't peple stop doing drugs AT parties...as well as just the rallies to support them?

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Old August 3rd, 2000, 02:36 PM   #30
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rainbow,

if we lived in a perfect world, your post would have had some relevance

there iz NO WAY you can get people to stop doing drugs at parties and make the "scene" clean

raves and drugs go hand in hand, almost like raves and music

you can't just say, "lets get rid of the drugs"

it wont work

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Old August 3rd, 2000, 04:54 PM   #31
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stealing cars is auto theft
i don't know why you had to say that sean

public intoxication!?
how can u be charged with public intoxication when your on private property?
(say in your house, or in a club)

before an officer pulls you over in your car, and you decide to destroy your narcodicts before search by eating it..
than it is destroyed and nothing can be done

it is impossible to catch someone in the act of "eating" (which is "doing") an e, than arresting them before person swallows the evidence to charge with possession...

nooooo
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Old August 3rd, 2000, 05:07 PM   #32
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maybe "e" meant "endomorphins" .. ? ;0)

they said the letter "E" is not a crime

not "doing mdma is not a crime"

ya buncha crack heads

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Old August 3rd, 2000, 05:15 PM   #33
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zoo:
cause of your radical brain storming
i've came up with other possibilites that "e" is an actual person, and "doing" is slang term for sex...
so having sex with person named "e" isn't a crime (which really isn't)
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Old August 3rd, 2000, 05:28 PM   #34
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My 2 cents:

mdma is not legal and holding up a sign saying that it is not a crime to do it is shear ludicrousy. The media was waiting for us to screw up somewhere, and someone did a good job of that. That kind of bullshit is devastating to the scene, but then again, so is saffron.
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Old August 3rd, 2000, 05:29 PM   #35
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k

with the public intoxication thing

i wus talking based on the fact that it was all about getting raves on city property legalized, no?

so therefore, you are on public property, and therefore you are in public, and intoxicated.....they can arrest you without testing your blood, as long as they have reasonable doubt

so, therefore, doing e(at parties, on city property) is illegal.....and in clubs which are patrolled by cops

anywhere that the police patrol, is within their jurisdiction

thank YOU for YOUR time

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Old August 3rd, 2000, 05:44 PM   #36
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poundrave

ur a genius !!

i'd hold up that sign

hopefully someone named "E", possibly Elaine or Ellen or Eleanore or etc might decide to protest with me .. hehehe ..
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Old August 3rd, 2000, 05:51 PM   #37
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I never saw that sign...hopefully no one else did either.

Was it in any of the newspapers?

"Assholes are individuals, not an entire genre of a subculture."

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Old August 3rd, 2000, 05:53 PM   #38
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IT WAS ON THE TV
on like 3 different channels


i wasn't at iDANCE and it was loud and clear that it was there


all three channels showed the sign


whoever made it is an idiot!!

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Old August 3rd, 2000, 06:03 PM   #39
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You can't be charged with public intoxication in a club. Just because the police are allowed inside doesn't mean the club instantly becomes a public place. If a police officer knocks on your door at home, and you answer it drunk, he's not going to lay charges.


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Old August 3rd, 2000, 06:10 PM   #40
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since when do a club and my house have anything in common?

being drunk/high in my house, not chargeable otehr than posession

being overly intoxicated in a club/bar you can be arrested, usually you will just be removed to the street and then dealt with

eaither way, doing e is illegal because to do it you have to posess it at some point

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Old August 3rd, 2000, 06:57 PM   #41
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First of all, your home and a club have everything in common when it comes to public intoxication because they are both PRIVATE property. You cannot be arrested by the police in a club or your home for being too drunk. Period. If you get thrown out and decide to wander the streets, then you can be arrested, but that's it.

Second ... "possessing it at some point" is not a basis for laying charges. The police need evidence. If the drugs are in your stomach or your bloodstream, that's not enough evidence (see earlier message). Unless you live in Scandinavia of course.


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Old August 3rd, 2000, 09:42 PM   #42
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TraNceAhoLic:
I saw the sign and the fukin pacifier sucking losers who were holding them...

Me an My friend Mike were about to terrorize the little fuks, but they dissapeared and I didnt c the signs again....

I hope the person who od'd was one of them...fukin assholes

If any of u know who these fukers are BEAT them..I swear to God, that we would have, but that would have been detrimental to the rally

If u know them, punch them once and then do it again 4 me

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Isn't that seriously harsh?!! However stupid they are they do not deserve violence to be brought apon them!! You better be kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Old August 3rd, 2000, 10:14 PM   #43
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Hypocrites hypocrites hypocites!!!!!!
How MANY of us have raved about the wonders
of ecstasy? How many of us take it at parties?
So don't sit around, taking back all what you've said to make the scene seem like it's about ALL the music and dancing. Drugs will always be there, and the love for them will always be present.

You all think the scenes gonna change now?
people will still take drugs???!! Come on!
It's a never ending cycle.
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Old August 3rd, 2000, 10:24 PM   #44
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^^^^^^^^

what does that have to do with anything being said in this thread?

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Old August 3rd, 2000, 11:20 PM   #45
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Uh..... because maybe the sign those people were holding was defending ecstacy and everyone here is saying they deserve a beating.

I agree, the sign was not appropriate for the occasion but they are representing themselves, members of the rave scene. The TRUTH!! They do exist, bad or good.

G-ZuZ your the one saying everyone should not be puting on acts!!
YOu know I got one word for you buddy Chill!
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Old August 4th, 2000, 01:25 AM   #46
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G-Zus: Doing E isnt a crime. Selling or having it on your person is. Yes- they were being idiots for having that sign, but there was truth in it- even though it wasnt the kind of message I think was right for this Rally. If your intoxicated in public there isnt much a cop can do but test you- they cant really arest you for being intoxicated unless they feel you are a danger to yourself or others. Besides that, they'll tell you to go home or drive you home.

I dont know your background at all, but are you going from what people tell you, from an educated point of view or do you just asume what should be right in your own mind. Its hard to tell sometimes. You are intitled to your own opinions fine, but you just seem to enjoy badgering every post and everyone's veiws. If you say "everyone's entitled to their own opinions" cant you explore those possible ideas for a moment?

Just a though- It will make you see things a bit diffrently like you like to do so often.
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Old August 4th, 2000, 01:49 AM   #47
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does it really matter if doing e is a crime or not?

who the fuck cares

"yess officer, i'm on extasy. please arrest me"

"no officer, i'm not on extasy, my pupils adjust oppositely to light/dark"

give the topic a rest hehe

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Old August 4th, 2000, 12:56 PM   #48
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i have a feeling...that this thread is another one thats gonna be so pepeditive...but newayz we had so manie more good things come over the i-dance rally to block out the few arrestes and maybe 5 bad signs...everything works out in the end....stay positive....BLAH


lotsa luv, mandi
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Old August 5th, 2000, 10:20 PM   #49
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Someone once again please explain to me how "DOING" drugs (i.e. E) is NOT a crime when possessing it is?

I refuse to believe this and Adrian where exactly are you getting your facts? It MUST be illegal, that's just common sense. Ingesting an illegal substance must be a crime of some sort.

Does anyone take law???
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Old August 5th, 2000, 10:35 PM   #50
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If you've already taken the drugs, you can't get arrested just 'cos you're high, unless you're also being a public nuisance. However, if you're caught in the act of consuming said illegal chemicals that's a different story.
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