Psychick

Right back at you, doll.

Let's tie firefighters' shoes together on our lunch break, and poison some security guards. Rage against the machine, man!

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peachfuzz

90%? you're being a little to gracious. i'd say it would be somewhere in the high 90's.

Psychick

I'm nothing if not overly gracious

limey

lol... another foiled attempt at astralkid pointing his finger at somenone and crying "prejudice"

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astralkid

What are you talking about? We are having a civil discusion mainly focused on youth resiliency/ culture with a sidenote on the role of the police and state. This is just a change of ideas/ theories/ believes.

This a forum that I try to post now reguarly, and respond to many issues.

Either add to the discussion, or do not say anything at all.

limey

Okay so answer me this:

What is the difference between a general statement and sweeping generalizations?

It seems apparent you think one is considered fallacious, while the other is in propper form since you did after all admit thats what your initial response to Jenn was. This kind of spin can be either chalked up as: Either you had a change of heart with regards to your feelings on generalizations somewhere between November 26th, 2006, 06:47 PM and November 27th, 2006, 06:40 PM or you were trying to attack Jenn by applying a double standard.

astralkid

I wrote, "Yeah,cause conformity is the new nonconformity to draw attention to this fallacious quote:

Like I said it was a general statement in response to a general observation on youth resiliency( I admit it). I was trying to show the hypocrisy of such a statement by making a general statement. Not all, "rebel-rebel teens going on about how all police are pigs and "Fuck The Man" and "Yeah Anarchy"

Will write more on the topic we were discussing before when I have time

Psychick

It wasn't even a general statement :P

I didn't say that all rebellious teens take that stance, or do so blindly. I just said that the ones that do, annoy the shit out of me. Are you honestly trying to say that there are not idiot teens out there that parrot those phrases and wear anarchy t-shirts without giving a second thought to, well, anything?

limey

No, what you said wasnt a general statement with some higher purpose. It was a lame attempt at sattire. You even quoted the wrong part of her post to back up this ellusive point youre trying to make.

Stating that youth latch on to rebel causes isnt a hypocracy, its a fact. Does anyone remember why Fred Durst was so pissed off? No. But the masses bought millions of his albums because he had the rebel "fuck the man" attitude. Heres another example: Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, theres something liberating in the appeal of being a big skank against your parents will... hence why theres so many more prostitots than there were 10 years ago. The Anticonformity trend is here for the time being, so taking issue with the reality of the situation just for the sake of it is no different than saying "haha, fucking pig should have been g'd" ...at least to a certain extent.

Weaver

He's agreeing with you.

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Psychick

No way, dude. Astralkid NEVER agrees with me

hugsy

Anyone who thinks this is funny needs to grow the fuck up.

1) being a police officer doesn't make you a bad person
2) being anti-establishment doesn't make you cool. unless you have something real to say it just makes you look stupid.
3) drugging anyone with anything against their will is wrong. this isn't a matter of opinion it is a matter of fact.

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hugsy

What the fuck is wrong with you? You think that would be funny? Please, for the sake of all humanity, have yourself sterilized.

Psychick

You said this a lot more succintly than I did. I should have you edit my posts

Glyce

Okay, I'm still gonna think it's funny, and I'll keep growing up, I've got quite a bit of it to do. Drugging someone with weed against their will in their bloody burgers isn't gonna make 'em go insane like doseing someone would. It just get's you high. Jesus Christ. And yea, I totally agree with how stupid the rebellious thing is, I personally wouldn't do it. But jeeze. It's pot. Obviously they didn't load a whole freakin' 8th into each burger. If the cops didn't' notice it was there in the first place, it probably didn't get them that high.

But I have every reason to find this humorous. Especially 'cause if they hadn't noticed they probably would've bought more food

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hugsy

I didn't say it would make them insane. I said it was wrong - which it is.

Can you please explain to us what, specifically, is funny about drugging someone? Do you think child molestation is funny too?

"Jeeze all I did was touch his bum! It's not gonna make him insane or anything!"

weava

Are you seriously taking this thread THIS seriously.

It was posted as a humorous article.

Yea go ahead, prosecute the kids who did it.

Was it wrong? Yes.
Was it illegal? Yes.

Was it still funny? IMO yes.

Was it funny because it was cops? No, its funny that someone ate some pot and felt the need to go to the hospital.

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weava

Good comparison.

Weed = Child Molestation.


Right.

Psychick

It's not that weed = molestation, it's that drugging someone is also a form of assault, which a lot of people "familiar" with drugs seem to overlook. To a recreational drug user, being drugged with pot may not seem like a big deal, but it IS a violation, and may very well be frightening to a non-user.

I wouldn't have made the same comparison, but I see where he is coming from.

astralkid

Get out of my head! So, you even knew what post I wanted to quote to emphasis my point? Lovely.

We are not discussing the same thing. I am in no way defending teen angst, who are spoon- fed and find themselves in a culture that pampers to their every need.

1) In social movements, not everyone has the same level of dedication to the cause

2) You are offering a bleak and a conservative outlook on youth involvement in society, when you write, "I would wager 90% of the 'Down with the Establishment'-'Fuck the Police' youth "activists" haven't actually put any thought into their personal politics above memorizing punk lyrics and learning to spell "anarchy.” Although, I do agree with you that some people do not put some thoughts into certain political stance they adopt (See South Park episode 902 for a comical outlook on said topic).

Actually, I do like some of your posts and enjoy the dualistic position you take on some issues.

Psychick

When I say youth "activists", I'm not talking about young people that actually read about the issues they claim to care about. I'm not talking about the ones that donate money, or organize events, or even just think critically about why things are the way things are. Those people are well on their way to being interesting and productive human beings, and I commend them.

I'm talking about the ones that just follow things blindly. The ones that do it just because they think it's trendy, or they like pissing off the "norms". I know that these people exist, because I went to high school with them. They are the same people who grow up and still don't bother to educate themselves about issues or to think critically about, well, anything.

Glyce

Yeah, I guess it could be kinda worrisome if you had no idea, I do see that. But honestly, I'd rather people be fucking around with pot than anything else. And believe me, the anything else happens all the fucking time to people who might not seem as important to our world as cops, but certainly are, and they come out of it a lot more for the worse. Besides, no one is saying they shouldn't be punished or anything, but by the same token, half of what's so funny is how superfluous the measures they took were after finding out they'd eaten pot.

By the way, I'm gonna repeat it, because I thought it wasn't very well thought out myself, child molestation, and drugging someone with pot, are in two very different worlds. Bad comparison.

And I'd like to reiterate this, because I think it may've been skipped over, considering you actually posted a serious reply to the whole acid thing... It's a funny idea, none of us would actually do that. Get over it. It's the whole, haha, this'd be kinda funny, but we all know that if it actually happened it'd be pretty fucked up. It's a certain sense of humor that I'm not sure you share. (Hugsy)

Glyce

Alright, I just thought about something. I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, and I'm expecting to get shit for saying it. But this is what I'm thinkin.

If you were chillin at a house party, and someone spiked the punch, would you be very pissed off? If they did it right of course, and you didn't taste it, and had no idea until you felt a little tipsy, how pissed off would you be? In reality, you'd probably be a little upset, as the punch wasn't what you were expecting, but oh well, it's just alcohol. Right? Well, pot is A) healthier B) doesn't skew your judgment half as much as alcohol, and is way more mellow. You'd come to the same conclusions. I probably shouldn't drive until I feel alright, I need to sit back and chill. Maybe I should eat something to help wear it off, or drink some water to help get it out of my system/sweat it out.

But still, you'd probably be less offended. Why? Who the hell knows. Just a random thought, and a decent comparison. As GHB is also in a whole nother category (see: Date Rape), and anything else actually fucks you up.

Eating a little bit of pot might make you kind of high, but it certainly doesn't impare your judgment for more than 3 hours (given the amount they probably ate, as this amount wasn't given). And it technically, if you are a REGULAR smoker, takes a month to get it out of your system. If you smoke a bowl over the weekend, and you drink as much water as you should be doing daily anyway, it should be out of your system anywhere (depending on your body) between 3 to 6 days.

I dunno. Random thought. Keeping this exciting.