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OK, I've seen a lot of strange opinions on this thread, and I have an insiders view of military politics, and I'd like to put many peoples suspicions to rest.

1. As of right now, they DO NOT KNOW who perpetrated the attacks. Don't expect anyone to claim credit for the attack. If it was Osama Bin Laden, he will NOT claim credit for it- reference the World Trade Centre bombing, US Embassy bombings and so forth. There are many suspects, but we as the T.V. watching public will NOT be informed of who did it until retaliation is either underway or finished. Iran, Iraq and many Islamic Jihaads are suspect. It's rumoured that the hijackers are multinational. This could be a many-pronged organisation of several terrorist organisation... who knows? Don't be too quick to lay blame for this, until the official word comes down. The FBI, NSA and CIA are all very very good at their jobs, and they will find answers.

2. Whoever is deemed responsible will be wiped out- either personally, or by having their infrastructure destroyed. Now that NATO is deeming this as a strike to Organization security, this opens the door for ALL of the world's counter-terrorism forces to come out and play. There is no way that even the most fanatical mercenary will stand a chance against the likes of Delta Force, the SAS, JTF2, the Mossad and so forth.

3. The skymarshal program was brought in in the 1970's to respond to the increased hijacking threat. The program, along with non-negotiation policies instituted by western powers made classic airplane hijacking a moot point, it wasn't worth the risk any more.

4. I have no moral problems with the Pentagon being hit. It's a valid military target. I see the symbolism behind both targets, or all four original targets, but the loss of innocent civillian life at the Trade Centre, and on board the aircraft is the true travesty.

5. The reason these people were able to hijack the airplane with just knives is twofold.
i. The hijackers told the passengers that they had a bomb on the plane, and would detonate it if provoked. This kept the passengers in line. This may also be why the plane outside Pittsburgh crashed before reaching "target".
ii. Aircrew are trained to comply with the hijackers demands. Before yesterday, only one commercial airplane had been used as a weapon. The mentality with hijackers is that they wish to hold the passengers hostage to gain either political or financial resources. The pilot will follow all instructions to a point, because ALL of the people on his aircraft are his responsability. Once the hijackers have control of the plane, the flight crew are incapacitated, and the hijacker who is trained as a pilot takes over the controls... the passengers think that the pilot is still flying the plane, and the hijackers make sure they are none the wiser.
When someone hijacks an airplane, it's expected that they will land somewhere, and negotiations will begin... In this case, the hijackers gave their lives to allow someone else to hold the ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD hostage.

With this form of terrorism, there is a constant threat. There is nothing that can be done to garauntee that this won't happen again. The only thing that can be done is to strike back, with a message stronger than what was sent to us in the western world. Secondly, we can't let this tragedy affect us as much as it can. We have to go about our daily lives, keep aircraft flying, keep our financial institutions open. Yes, it leaves us more vulnerable to more attacks, but as soon as you let this shut down our institutions and our way of life, you have let the perpetrators win.

It's the most basic principal of counter-terrorism: no matter what the risk, never let the terrorists affect your way of life, because that is letting the terrorist win.

I concur with the opinion that this will be New York's finest hour, and further, North America's finest hour. It's a great display of humanity- everyone is affected, and everyone is doing what they can. I actually already had an appointment to donate blood today, I made the appointment on the weekend (I donate as soon as I'm eligible every 2 months)

Everyone over the age of 17 is a possible donor. Do it, it feels good to know that with 45 minutes of your life, you can save another human being.

God bless...

MCED

September 12th, 2001, 02:51 PM	#43
Everybodies_Daddy Hullaboarder Join Date: May 1999 Location: The Bordello Photos: 8 Journal Entries: 25	OK, I've seen a lot of strange opinions on this thread, and I have an insiders view of military politics, and I'd like to put many peoples suspicions to rest. 1. As of right now, they DO NOT KNOW who perpetrated the attacks. Don't expect anyone to claim credit for the attack. If it was Osama Bin Laden, he will NOT claim credit for it- reference the World Trade Centre bombing, US Embassy bombings and so forth. There are many suspects, but we as the T.V. watching public will NOT be informed of who did it until retaliation is either underway or finished. Iran, Iraq and many Islamic Jihaads are suspect. It's rumoured that the hijackers are multinational. This could be a many-pronged organisation of several terrorist organisation... who knows? Don't be too quick to lay blame for this, until the official word comes down. The FBI, NSA and CIA are all very very good at their jobs, and they will find answers. 2. Whoever is deemed responsible will be wiped out- either personally, or by having their infrastructure destroyed. Now that NATO is deeming this as a strike to Organization security, this opens the door for ALL of the world's counter-terrorism forces to come out and play. There is no way that even the most fanatical mercenary will stand a chance against the likes of Delta Force, the SAS, JTF2, the Mossad and so forth. 3. The skymarshal program was brought in in the 1970's to respond to the increased hijacking threat. The program, along with non-negotiation policies instituted by western powers made classic airplane hijacking a moot point, it wasn't worth the risk any more. 4. I have no moral problems with the Pentagon being hit. It's a valid military target. I see the symbolism behind both targets, or all four original targets, but the loss of innocent civillian life at the Trade Centre, and on board the aircraft is the true travesty. 5. The reason these people were able to hijack the airplane with just knives is twofold. i. The hijackers told the passengers that they had a bomb on the plane, and would detonate it if provoked. This kept the passengers in line. This may also be why the plane outside Pittsburgh crashed before reaching "target". ii. Aircrew are trained to comply with the hijackers demands. Before yesterday, only one commercial airplane had been used as a weapon. The mentality with hijackers is that they wish to hold the passengers hostage to gain either political or financial resources. The pilot will follow all instructions to a point, because ALL of the people on his aircraft are his responsability. Once the hijackers have control of the plane, the flight crew are incapacitated, and the hijacker who is trained as a pilot takes over the controls... the passengers think that the pilot is still flying the plane, and the hijackers make sure they are none the wiser. When someone hijacks an airplane, it's expected that they will land somewhere, and negotiations will begin... In this case, the hijackers gave their lives to allow someone else to hold the ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD hostage. With this form of terrorism, there is a constant threat. There is nothing that can be done to garauntee that this won't happen again. The only thing that can be done is to strike back, with a message stronger than what was sent to us in the western world. Secondly, we can't let this tragedy affect us as much as it can. We have to go about our daily lives, keep aircraft flying, keep our financial institutions open. Yes, it leaves us more vulnerable to more attacks, but as soon as you let this shut down our institutions and our way of life, you have let the perpetrators win. It's the most basic principal of counter-terrorism: no matter what the risk, never let the terrorists affect your way of life, because that is letting the terrorist win. I concur with the opinion that this will be New York's finest hour, and further, North America's finest hour. It's a great display of humanity- everyone is affected, and everyone is doing what they can. I actually already had an appointment to donate blood today, I made the appointment on the weekend (I donate as soon as I'm eligible every 2 months) Everyone over the age of 17 is a possible donor. Do it, it feels good to know that with 45 minutes of your life, you can save another human being. God bless... MCED __________________ Dirty Little Secrets Hot + Dirty