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Originally Posted by anabolic frolic
There's probably lots said about it on the forums here, but the Readers Digest version is after 5 years of being a partner in WEMF (1998 - 2002 inclusive) destiny ended up stiffing me on payment for our stage in 2002. Thousands of dollars is left unpaid. Things got ugly as time went on, but at the end of the day I'm the guy who's owed money to.
It's kind of like if you loaned a friend some money, and then they decided they didn't need to pay you back and you're the asshole for demanding it.
The bright side was we got out at a time when wemf was still in it's glory days and the Hulla stage was a prime attraction of the event with a huge production budget behind it (instead of some little side stage). Things have reportedly gone downhill since, so I'm not bothered about not being there.
To this day we don't allow any promotion of destiny events on this site, so that's why except for the occasional discussion there are no party details posted here for them.
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That definately sucks, so not really good to bring it back up, but IMO it is a loss to both hulla and destiny NOT to combine for the WEMF party.
Although you obviously have your reasons, and perhaps a bad vibe because of the memory and bad contract situation, I would ask that it is reconsidered, if at all posible, even as a smaller private renegade stage or otherwise, unless it is wholely unworkable and out of the question due to safety reasons.
Although I'm not too involved (if even at all) in either of the events, I cherish my memories of the two, I've never really taken the chance to spend enough time at a hulla wemf stage and it is something I almost regret from 2002..
2002 was a weird circumstance, and I'm not going to promote destiny events on your sight.. but atleast for me I know that this coming years wemf if it occcurs will not be as good as it could be with the absence of a hulla stage. I know that there has been hard sound in hulla's absence but what hulla has to offer is something that is worth appearing for.
So as someone that values both hulla and destiny I strongly recommend that you involve hulla in destiny, and put the music before past issues. Even if you don't put a huge production budget at all into it, but do it as a volunteer basis or as a demo contest for an up and coming hhc dj thing or something or anything... I think that the event can only be better with hulla and you there.
I had a terrible wemf 2002/3 or so.. I mean terrible.. I left walking home coughing up blood... then following was in jail... and unable to go.. but i finally made it back this past summer and although I ended up paying for VIP to go swimming on the friday (err dunking anyway) it was a really good experience.. there was HHC there.. and some good HHC at that.. (and I got my flashlight nicked in the HHC room....) but it could be even better with hulla there.
there could be countless ways to reconcile.. .. it may be bad blood.. but for the sake of both namesakes.. my honest opinion in my (limited knowledge of the situation) is that it is only a loss to both parties not to be counter involved.
division of the music scene does nobody good. (but I think it is important to add this is my personal opinion and does not necisarioly hold any tangible realness in the greater reality of the universe.. but it could)
how much do they owe you... ??? I'd start paying it to you in monthly installments of $9.99 .. or even $12.99