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Old December 27th, 2002, 03:03 PM   #23
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Are we talking about weed or ecstacy here? I didn't make any comments about weed. That in itself is another thread. As for ecstacy, it is a depressing drug.

I didn't say weed did I? When I say rolling, I'm refering to the high you get from Ecstasy.
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I know many people that have gone through periods of sadness and depression DIRECTLY after the use of ecstacy. Coincidence... i think not. Ecstacy has been repeatedly been claimed to cause depression.

Yes, lack of seretonin. That's what happens when your brain gets flooded with the "happy chemical" (seretonin, not MDMA) and then that chemical goes away. It takes about two weeks for your brain to replenish seretonin levels.
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Many doctors, scientist, and more have made these statements. I think that people of this statue would be a little more experienced with it's effects over the average user, most of which are not educated, nor want to be educated about the drug.

Doctors and scientists are paid by the government. The government is waging a "war against drugs" and therefore is having them do biased studies that show these effects. Pay someone and they will say anything.
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I am sure many people on this board will back me up when i say that depression does come from the use of ecstacy.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the majority of the people using Ecstasy that frequent this board are teenagers or young adults. People that are still in the stages of their lives where depression is a very large factor. Mix the fact that they don't have seretonin and you get a deeper depression. I'm not disputing that Ecstasy causes depression but it's short lived. You don't take it once and BOOM! you're depressed for life.
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PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF ECSTASY
confusion
depression
sleep problems
anxiety
paranoia
hallucinations
panic
psychotic episodes
confusion, depression, sleep problems
drug craving, severe anxiety, and paranoia - during and sometimes weeks after.

That's is large doses only. The studies that are done on animals don't mimic recreational use of Ecstasy. They are given higher doses of MDMA more frequently; up to 4-5 times a day for periods of up to four weeks. Those "PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS " can also be caused by problems at home, school, work, whatever.
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Ecstacy is not physically addictive like other drugs, but a mental addiction. It doesn't happen in all people, but it does happen in most.

I would like to see some data to back that up. Look at people that wake-up in the morning and need a coffee to get started. They are addicted to caffiene. Having that "I wish I was still high" feeling is quite common while using most drugs.

I'm not going to get started on the rest of it. It's all biased. Find unbiased sites and books to start reading. You'll realize that there is a world of knowledge out there.
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i don't remember you saying anything about taking the drug, although you do suggest it as you are sticking up for the users and the drug.

Not all users. The responsable ones, yes. I believe that people that are responsable about their use and don't make lives difficult for other people should be allowed to use. Not everyone is like that, unfortunatly.
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If it wasn't for the kid overdosing, the last hulla would not have been shut down earlier than expected.

And this kid overdosed on..? It's very difficult to OD on Ecstasy. He would have to have taken a lot! He could have taken Ecstasy (which isn't always MDMA..it's a pill being sold as it) and then could have OD'd on whatever else. So Ecstasy isn't entierly to blame here.

I don't have the patience to deal with the rest of this post. If I feel the need, I will address the rest later.
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